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I have been thinking a lot lately about dogma. I am not referring to the very funny Kevin Smith movie of the same name, but actual dogma's within us. Wiccans and Pagans, have dogma just like every other religion it would seem. Let me give an example: this one did not happen to me but has stuck out in my mind for years, and I happened to know the people involved.
Many years ago a good friend of mine was meeting with the Priest and Priestess of the local Gard group here in Indy. This friend of mine was fairly new on her path at the time and was told by one of these fine folks that you could not cast a circle without a blade. Now having Trad in me I understand this person's statement.
But at the same time my friend thought (and I agree with her), 'May the Gods help you if you are ever paralyzed from the neck down and unable to left your blade to cast a circle, whatever will you do.' To me this person's statement is very much a dogma about their beliefs.
Now dogma to me is like the big shit monster in the film of the same name.
It is a lot of stuff we carry with us from teaching former teaching, or what ever. Not all dogma is bad I have many dogma's that serve me well. But it is like a shit monster and I do have to deal with it. I ask myself am I ok to hang on to this? What is it serving in me by keeping it? I would encourage everyone to take those old dogma's you have out at take a closer look at them.
See if in fact they are not some big shit monster keeping you from reaching a higher level of understanding about something because you are too afraid to flush it done the loo.
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NOTE:
When Christ comes to claim His own
and to judge the living and the dead,
The Bible doesn't say: "... will He
find acknowledgement of His
atonement redemption?" No. It
(rather) says:"...shall he find faith
on the earth?" Luke 18:8
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GOSPEL OF JOHN QUESTION:
"DID CHRIST WIPE THE SINFUL SLATE CLEAN FOR EVERY PERSON; OR, DID HE BEAR THE SINS OF THE WORLD UPON THE CROSS?"
SCRIPTURE: John 1:29-34
> [NKJV]
"ANSWER:"
The Bible says that the Christian "walks by faith" and not "by sight." [2 Corinthians 5:7] The Christian's vital breath is faith; it is not looking back (continually reminiscing) over some fixed point in history in which Christ died and bore the sins of the whole world. John 1:29 ; Isaiah 53:1f
The Bible says that the Christian is to look to Jesus the "author and finisher" ("pioneer and perfecter" - RSV) of one's faith. Hebrews 12:2 ; Hebrews 5:9. Disciples of Christ are to fixate (focus - consider attentively) upon Christ, the captain of their faith. Philippians 3:7;8;9
The Scripture never says that by grace through
the mental assent (acknowledgment) of Christ
dying for the world's sins, that a person is made
right with God. No! It rather says: "For by grace
are ye saved through faith; and that not of
yourselves: it is a gift of God; not of works,
lest anyone should boast." Ephesians 2:8;9
Yesterday I was on the road for a considerable distance. The only thing that seemed to come in clearly on my auto's radio, was a popular Christian radio station. I was amazed how many songs dealt with the re-occurring theme that Christians were God's redeemed and that they were His children. Now, that is not an untruth; except that these songs never once mentioned "faith." When I was thinking of this, I asked myself: "What a poor witness to those unbelievers who are listening to this music and its lyrics! It gives the incorrect message that all one has to do, is appreciate God's love for giving His all." That is (somewhat) like our present White House occupier (unconstitutional "president") saying: "I believe in the 2nd Amendment (the personal right to bear firearms)." The Bible also says that devils give assent (acknowledgement) to God's person - but, don't genuinely believe in Him. James 2:19
Believing in a fixed point in history isn't the same as actually believing in Christ. Believing that Christ died for the sins of the whole world does not justify one's own soul. Believing in an event that made provision for every soul's sins to be forgiven; does not translate into
a person actually possessing the personal forgiveness of his sins. The Scripture no where states that believing (deciding for oneself) that Christ's atonement for human sin, forgives a person's sins.
The crucifiction event of God dying for the sins of the whole world and an individual believing in that event, does not take the place of the Holy Spirit's working of cleansing and sanctifying that individual's soul. Following (contained in the topical message link below) are Luther's words in explanation to the Holy Spirit's work.
PLEASE NOTE:
Part 2: How does the false teaching of universal objective justification molest Christians' faith? - thechristianmessage.org/2012/09/
The divine revelation states that faith in the
individual soul is a gift of God. It cannot be
drummed up on one's own. The Bible also states
that this individual faith comes through the
instrument (by way of) of God's divine revelation:
Romans 1:16 ; Romans 10:17 ; 2 Timothy 3:14-17 ;
Acts 8:26-29 ; 1 Peter 1:23 ; James 1:18
IN SHORT, believing in the visible historical presence of a cookie jar on Grandma's kitchen counter, does not automatically translate into cookies occupying that cookie jar. The Bible says that "...but without faith it is impossible to please him [God]..." Hebrews 11:6. It also states:
"For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it." Hebrews 4:2
"...Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them..." Galatians 3:6-12
FINALLY, does the Scripture say: "Examine yourselves whether you acknowledge Christ's atonement suffering and death?" No! Rather, the Scripture says:
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? 2 Corinthians 13:5
The Christian Message website's, "Bible Questions and Answers" are intended to help assist the web reader to appreciate the Holy Scriptures and to enhance understanding. It is this web author's prayer that God the Holy Spirit will utilize this humble effort to effect and affect faith in those who read and hear.
"PLEASE ALSO NOTE:"
As Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has additional thoughts to convey of these specific Bible questions and answers individual published web postings, he will continue to edit - revise and add. Please check back, at will on this website; and / or check with Nathan M. Bickel ['s] Facebook page: The Christian Message for notifications of this website's new additions.
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We're going to have to look seriously at cutting out the pre-worship devotions.
It all started when someone said "let's have a time of prayer before the main Ceremony each day." Seemed a good idea - those of us who would be leading could seek blessing on the time that lay before us, and could seek to have our hearts and minds directed for our duties.
And it worked quite well for a while. In fact it got quite popular. First it was just the druids, but then the musicians pointed out they would appreciate it. And given the way they sound, none of us were going to deny them the power of prayer. And then the pourers-out and fillers-up of beakers wanted to prepare themselves spiritually. Soon there were ten or more people attending. And our informal, spontaneous praying style could get a bit chaotic with that many around. So to bring some order to things, we put the person responsible for leading the pre-worship prayers down on the rota, and that structured things.
But then the people that lead the pre-worship prayers decided they needed a time of spiritual preparation - it was quite challenging, now so many people were getting involved. So they set aside a time for pre-pre-worship prayers contemplation. But it was a bit quiet so they started asking their friends along to join them.
But their friends quite enjoyed it, so a few of them started attending before every pre-worship prayer meeting. And it all started getting a little unstructured, with so many of them. So they had to appoint somebody to lead it. And then they realised they needed some pre-pre-pre-worship prayers contemplation devotions.
But that was so quiet and still, without the kids and the trouble-makers and the late-comers. So people started attending the pre-pre-pre-worship prayers devotions. So it needed a bit of preparation.
Cutting a long story to just quite long, eventually a book was produced. The "Wee pre-pre-pre-pre-worship prayers contemplation devotions worship book". A book with not much content but a huge cover.
Look, everyone's now having to get up at 5am every morning. The main Occasions are getting later and later. And then we've got the problem of the post-formal ceremonies worship, and the prayer meeting after that to give thanks for how we've been blessed. And everyone's really shattered because they daren't not show up at every pre- and post-worship event in case they're considered lightweights. So all pre-worship preparations and post-worship worship sessions are henceforth banned.
Now maybe we can all get some sleep.
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Hello,
My name is Sara. I have to interview someone of a different religion for my Ritual and Religion course in college. I have chosen the Temple of Set because I had done some very mild research on their website for another class and I found the religion interesting. So please, if you are a member and could answer the questions that I have (below), I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance!
1. What is your name? (First name is fine.) Where are you from?
2. What religion do you practice and how did you come to practice it?
3. What are the frequency and types of prayer that you engage in?
4. How often do you worship? Why do you worship? What do you perform during your worship services?
5. What do you believe is the best lesson your religion teaches?
6. What do you most disagree with about your religion, if anything?
7. What is one thing about your religion that affects your daily life and family life?
8. Under your religion, what god(s) do you worship?
9. What does your religion teach about ultimate reality?
10. What does your faith teach about the truth of the human person?
11. What does your religion teach about the nature of the world?
12. Do you have a religious/sacred text? If yes, what is it and what does it contain?
13. What is your favorite religious text or passage? What is one story/message from this text that you remember having a strong impact on yourself?
14. Do you try to tell others about your religion? How might someone better understand your faith? In your opinion, what is the most common misconception about their faith?
15. Are there areas where your faith comes into conflict with modern culture?
16. Have you ever questioned your faith?
17. How are you raising you children in this faith, if you have any?
18. What are your beliefs on the afterlife?
19. What symbol from your religion do you most like and what does it mean to you? (Please go into some detail)
20. What does your religion require or encourage regarding service to the community? What do you do? Why is this service work an important expectation in your religion?
21. Do you have any examples of how your religious community benefits from providing service to those in need?
22. What kinds of attitudes, values and behaviors does your religious culture encourage?
23. What are some elements of service that your community might be neglecting?
24. Are there any ways to serve that you would like to explore in the future?
25. Anything else to add?
Again, thank you very much!
Reference: http://religion-events.blogspot.com
This is a great video, frankenspliced to portray crazy Mel as an anti-Semite.
It's no secret that I support Israel (and, I suspect, it's likely the reason I lose people off the feedburner that shows how many people
1. Generalized derogatory comments on Jewry. They can be subtler hints, like "I think that there is no doubt that there are many american citizens that have greater loyality to Israel than the US." (My subsequent challenge to that assertion consisted of getting absolutely no evidence other than the assertion, I might add). Then there are more flagrant commentaries like "If for whatever reason, the USA entered into military conflict with the foreign nation Israel, could we count on all the Jews in the US military to support and not sabotage the operation?" I have seen some truly idiotic and despicable comments that state that 'Jews are over-represented in Hollywood'. You ken me drift, I think.
2. Usually, I point out that Jews are a race and an ethnicity, not just a religion. Don't believe me? Look it up. WITHOUT EXCEPTION, I hear this: "You can convert to Judaism, that makes you a Jew, so you're WRONG." Never mind that if your mother's a Jew, you're born a Jew. This is pretty much a false dichotomy: there's more than one way to be a 'member'.
3. Entering into discussion with these folks and calling shenanigans usually ends up degenerating into a pissing contest. I get accused of being brain damaged, rabid Zionism, and other ridiculous nonsense. Even of not being a 'True AtheistTM'
4. Usually this devolves even more into ridiculous comparisons: Israel commits genocide, accusations of apartheid, comparisons to Nazi Germany (that last part should Godwin a thread, but doesn't, as the clown is usually building up some lather).
Now, as a qualifier, some people go directly to number 4. Once upon a time, I was one of those folks. And someone challenged me on it. So I did the research. I've other posts on the subject, so before you take a swing at me, do a little reading up. I have valid reasons for 'switching sides'.
One of the issues you'd imagine I'd have as an atheist, is this: they started the whole shebang, the whole monotheistic trinity of nonsense we have to endure and combat in the name of reason and rationality. More correctly, their "ancestors "did that, and I'm not a big fan of children inheriting the 'sins' of their fathers folderol. The other fact of the matter, is that aside from the latest problems occurring in Israel, Jews aren't in the news. Or rather, they're more sporadically in the news - outside say, the Madoff scandal, the contrast of bad press from either Islam or Christianity (or the variants ther) outnumber the bad press from Judaism by at least 20 to 1 (that's a guessed margin - feel free to correct me).
Have no doubt, I'm firmly against religion. As Einstein so succinctly put it, "the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions." My major beef is that folks (especially on the left) indulge themselves in (sometimes unknowingly) distinctly racist (yes, Jewish is a race) scapegoating, which I might add, is a religious practice, and one that should be tossed in the garbage with all the Talmuds, Korans, and bibbles. I do have a sort of empathy for them as a people, because I'm fairly sure no other group gets blamed for so much on so little evidence, and anti-Semitism is an evil Christian legacy that atheists should not espouse.
Make of that what you will.
L'Chaim.
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"Focus the Oculory," intoned Sister Betsy.
The Healomancer, a bright blob, shaded Jillian's brow with her blobby pink hand and rapidly glanced back and forth between the Chief's eyes. The real world wavered, then fell back into perfect sharpness.
"You're healed," she said with a certain professional coldness, and turned away.
Jillian swiveled her head sharply, looking at everything she could. Her gaze darted around the street, first recognizing the big yellow forms of her gwiffons, including the one holding the Overlady in its mouth.
The complete Court of Faq was present. Most stood on the steps of the archway to the Wizard's Hall, talking in pairs and clusters, some joyfully, some in hushed and conspiratorial tones. A number of them cautiously paid their respects to Wanda, their newest. A fully-whole Brother Orwell stood in his shackles to one side, speaking glumly to the King.
And Jillian stood there in the middle of the cobblestone street, ignored by all. She had her eyes back, but no-one was offering theirs.
Well, Jack looked her way. His little head-tilt and raised eyebrow inquired if she was all right. She gave him a smile and nod, lifting her sword in salute. Then she let the tip of her weapon casually hover in front of Olive's face.
She sniffed the air. The prisoner had a familiar scent upon her. Jillian moved the sword away. With her off hand, she touched the stale flower still clinging to her hair.
"Hey. You carrying?"
Olive twisted her neck to look up at her. The Overlady's red-rimmed blue eyes seemed kindly, almost remorseful. "Yes. Would you like a bud, Jillian?"
"Yes, I would really, really like one." Three, four, five seconds she bit her tongue and counted, until she could trust herself not to say that.
"After," she said. "After Haffaton is done. After I've felt that thump in my wrist that means my sword connected, that it got through your neck cleanly. I'll pick it off of your body. No, that one's probably poisoned. That's probably why you offered it. Your last little trap. I'll go out in the garden and get a fresh one."
Banhammer informally convened the Court. True to form, the casters immediately began a pointless and lengthy discussion about "where to have" the trial. The Wizard's Hall might have been the obvious choice, but the "recent disharmony" there made King Banhammer want to entertain other options. Half of these casters were seeing a non-Faq city for the first time. They made eager suggestions: the top of the tower, Judy's suite, the outer walls.
Jack, at least, brought up the urgency of the situation. "It still being the, ah, enemy's turn," he said, apologizing for the word with his eyes, "we perhaps cannot afford to dwell on this question long. While I certainly see the need for a trial, the Services of Truth and Justice are being needlessly delayed. After all, right here in the middle of the street might be perfectly adequate to get to the bottom of things."
"Sounds good," interjected Chief Jillian. She pointed downward with her flashing sword. "I really like that gutter. It's got a nice little slope for her head to roll down."
Olive let out a little whimper, then burst into sobs again. The wrinkled noses and furrowed brows let Jillian know she hadn't won any points with the jury.
Well...tough.
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King Banhammer eventually settled on a spot that Wanda suggested: a patio garden in the garrison courtyard. It was an open space, cheery, adorned with potted plants with all the wrong flowers growing on them. There was a raised fountain, where they dragged a big wooden table to serve as a bench for Banhammer to preside upon. The place had a lot of room, and plenty of sturdy chairs to seat the jurors. Wanda and Olive chose to stand before the King. Orwell asked to sit beside the accused, where he slouched disconsolately in a large "witness chair."
Jillian liked this space, mainly because she could park a gwiffon on the stone tiles here. Now perched in its saddle, she rested her bare sword across the flat of its neck, and watched the skies. She fully expected Haffaton to attack at any second, with anything they had. But at least if there were an airspace incursion, she could see it from here. If not, she'd at least be aware if the walls were taking damage.
If-really, "when"-that happened, then she would "not" leap into the sky to fight. She would simply lunge forward and croak the prisoner, whatever her father's orders or objections. At that point, her Duty wouldn't look so muddled. For now, though, she couldn't claim 100% certainty that he was wrong.
Which is why she didn't much care how the trial went. Whatever the jury decided, the battle was already won. This was going to end with the stroke of a blade, and the fall of Haffaton.
Still, it was interesting. She listened as Wanda briefly laid out the history of the side.
Haffaton had been founded on a capital site at the mouth of a river (Jillian remembered stealing a paddleboat there), about eleven thousand turns ago. An adventurous warlord named Lex Doothis had crossed a great sea and discovered a Level 2 barbarian city on the site. Upon conquering it, he spun off a new side. From that small seed, Haffaton slowly grew into the largest side in Erfworld.
"Along the way," said the Lady Firebaugh, "it conquered and eliminated fourteen sides, including my native Goodminton and your Faq."
Jillian refrained from whistling, but the fact that there were fifteen capital sites within Haffaton's domain was hard to fathom. It might be common to see a successful side with two or three, but she'd never heard of any with more than five.
"The Overlord Doothis established the side over a long period of growth, which abruptly ended when it edged up against the domains of Easteros and Westeregg," said Wanda, addressing the bench in formal tones. She did not pace as she spoke, but stood stock still with her hands folded humbly in front of her. "These were two powerful, strongly allied sides ruled by casters named Bell and Blair. They were sisters, from a distant tribe of green-complexioned men. But more remarkable than their odd Signamancy, each was in possession of an Arkentool. And each was attuned."
Some of the jurors straightened and murmured. Jillian leaned forward in the saddle.
"Between their domains stood the side of el-Efbaum, with this emerald city as its capital. It also was ruled by a caster, a Carnymancer. At the time, he only allowed himself to be called 'The Wizard.' You would know him as Charlie."
Jillian shook her head. Carnymancy. Nice. Hating Charlie suddenly seemed a little more justified now. It did explain a lot about him, though.
"The Wizard was in a constant war with the sisters, and the outcome was uncertain. For he did "not" possess an Arkentool. Not yet. Still, he managed to keep his side alive and theirs at bay. At the time that Haffaton began to tangle with the sisters, el-Efbaum had been locked in a stalemate with them for longer than Haffaton had existed. He saw this strong new side as a means to break the deadlock, and he formed an alliance with Doothis.
"Haffaton had a Predictamancer and a Thinkamancer. The Wizard had a Findamancer and a Lookamancer. By means that are now obscure, The Wizard used some or all of those casters in an attempt to summon a warlord capable of defeating Bell and Blair.
"Their spell was a success. In fact, Bell of Easteros was croaked on the spot as an immediate "effect" of the summoning process. The warlord they called to their aid was Judy Gale."
The jury sat in rapt silence. Jillian's head was getting a little numb, trying to process all of this new information. For some reason, the hardest part of it was picturing Judy as a warlord. But she must have been. Rulers' Signamancy often changes dramatically.
"The Warlady Gale acquired the Arkenshoes from Bell's body, and over a period of several turns she attuned to them. She then used them to infiltrate Westeregg and destroy Blair, capturing the Arkendish and returning it to The Wizard, as per their terms of alliance."
Finally, Wanda broke her rigid stance. She turned and stared at Overlady Branch for a long moment, as if to give her the opportunity to refute any of the account. Olive said nothing.
"This is the point at which the defendant's list of crimes begins," said Wanda. She slowly turned her head, then her body, back to face Banhammer. "In destroying Blair, Judy had the aid of el-Efbaum's Hippiemancer, Olive Branch."
The King was watching the Croakamancer intently, holding tented fingertips to his lips. "State the crimes," he said. His tone was low and grave.
Wanda raised her head by a bare fraction. "Her most serious acts include at least ten counts of commander-level fratricide (with others attempted). She also attempted both patricide and hericide. Beginning with Blair, she arranged or accomplished the croaking of eleven enemy rulers and at least two hundred warlords under false terms of parley, truce, or alliance, or via other dishonorable and perverse means. Among these were my brother Tommy, and my father Lord Firebaugh."
From Jillian's perspective, she could not see Olive's face. But the Overlady was shaking her head in silent protest. Her knees were shaking a bit as well. "I had good reasons!" she pleaded. "Loj!"
Banhammer pounded his fist on the bench, startling a couple of the jurors. "'Your Wisdom!'" he corrected sternly. "And the defendant will not speak until the prosecutor has listed the crimes!"
"Thank you, Your Wisdom," said Wanda, shooting a glance at the cowed Overlady. "The accused has often maintained that her actions were in the service of a greater good, what you would call the Service of Life. I am certain she will argue such. And perhaps these particular crimes against the Titans' expectations might be considered individually, and even excused in context. But there is a worse crime, one she can never truly answer for. She created the Olive Garden."
"I see. And what is that?" asked Banhammer skeptically.
"The farm attached to this city," said Wanda. She took the stale flower from her hair and held it out. "Where these are grown. And worse things than these. She has perverted the purpose of her own discipline. She has "weaponized" Hippiemancy, used the power of peace in the service of destruction, used Life against Life. Haffaton is an empty husk, sitting where many thriving sides lived before. As pretty as it is, the Garden is the source and center of the decay. There is no other word for the things she has brought into the world except 'evil.'"
Jillian watched the stale flower, as the Lady Firebaugh replaced it uselessly in her hair. Titans, Wanda must have it ten times worse than she did. "How long has she been wearing those things? How much longer does she have before they croak her? Will they get me, too?" It was a scary thought, but it didn't make her want one any less.
...which was even scarier.
"So. Is that your primary charge?" Banhammer asked.
"Yes," said Wanda. "But it is integral to the details of her other crimes."
"That she created a garden of evil."
"Yes."
Banhammer frowned, looking uncertain of what to say. He looked at a few of the jurors, and even glanced Jillian's way. Then he looked at Olive for a moment, before returning his gaze to Wanda. "You said she was originally a unit of el-Efbaum, correct?"
"Correct, Your Wisdom."
"So she created this garden here, under The Wizard?"
"Yes," said Wanda. "Although most of what makes it evil, she created later."
"That is not what I'm asking. She created it while serving under The Wizard. Perhaps at his direction. Did she pop here in this city?"
"She did, Your Wisdom. And her Flower Power was integral to The Wizard's efforts to keep Bell and Blair from conquering his side. He used her magic to-"
Banhammer held up a hand. "She popped in the capital, under The Wizard," he said, leaning forward.
"Yes, Your Wisdom."
"So the charge of attempted patricide..."
The King straightened in his seat, and folded his hands on the bench.
"She is Charlie's daughter," he said slowly, staring at Olive. "And she tried to croak him?"
"Your Wisdom, that is correct."
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